Transcript - The 1965 Kecksburg, Pennsylvania UFO Crash

it didn't start or end with Roswell the 20th century in the United States saw several now Infamous alleged UFO crash cases that feature Rich Paper Trails a wealth of witnesses and endless mystery today we travel to the Midwest of the continental United States to a sleepy town in Pennsylvania named kbur where on the evening of December 9th 1965 something from the sky crashed into the nearby Woods sending the town and the US military into a frenzy leading to one of the most discussed and debated UFO crash retrieval cases of all time hey guys it's UAP gerb today we finally visit one of my most requested crash retrieval cases the 1965 kbur Pennsylvania UFO crash kbur has long been a favorite case of mine due to the exhausting list of local Witnesses extensive press coverage and fascinating ties to Blue Book and project moondust what if anything crashed into the Woods that cold winter evening was it a meteor as Blue Book claimed a Soviet satellite like many debunkers have claimed or indeed a craft of non-human intelligence as described by numerous eyewitnesses and a quick note here guys excellent research has been conducted by respected euphology on this case I will primarily be referencing the work of the most seasoned kbur investigator Stan Gordon and the legend with whom Gordon shared much of his research and Witnesses Leonard Stringfield in the early evening of December 9th 1965 thousands of residents across Michigan Indiana Ohio West Virginia Pennsylvania New York and Canada observed a fiery brilliant glow streak across the sky a ball of fire leaving a smoke Trail estimated to be visible for 20 minutes after the passing of the object numerous groundbased civilians and Pilots initially thought the object to be an aircraft in Peril is especially due to pieces of the object seemingly detaching and falling over leir Michigan and Alyria Ohio the material would later be recognized and studied within the official blue book report on kbur as noted by Clark mcleland UFO researcher and former NASA Apollo space program member as well as Dr Paul anir professor of astronomy the object would make a change of course roughly 25° when traveling over ayia Ohio similar calculations showed the object to be between 40 and 60 m in altitude when first observed over Michigan mcleland estimated the speed of the glowing object based on the distance of witness observations to be traveling at roughly 17 m a minute or 1,62 mph for reference meteors travel between 25 and 144,000 mph so even if McLean's calculations were off by a factor of 10 the object was still traveling at much slower speeds than a meteor in Earth's atmosphere around 44 5 p.m. the object plunged into the woods of kbur Pennsylvania the object made a turn between Greensburg and L tro and was reported from local communities as it moved towards the South near luraville the object turned again and began to track Northeast towards the kexb area where reportedly impacted into the woods closely tracking the object project Bluebook dispatched a three-man Air Force team from the 662 radar squadron at the Oakdale Army Installation near Pittsburgh to investigate the Squadron was operating under control of the Aerospace Defense command these orders were presumably given by Major Hector kinta who took the Reigns of Bluebook in 1963 the 33-page report on kbur from Blue Book has Kia's name all over the memorandum for record and it is important to note of Blue Book's conclusion of kbur under the major the case was designated as a meteor and quickly worth mentioning Blue Book States the three-man team found no materials at the crash Blue Book curiously marks this case under Acme Pennsylvania why is this researchers are not sure but one possibility is the Air Force personnel interviewed Witnesses who lived nearby in the town of Acme and speaking of konia let's pay special attention to April 5th 1966 where the United States Air Force Major lied before the house armed services committee stating that Bluebook had no radar cases that were unexplained scientific adviser to Bluebook Jay Allen heck revealed this deception by providing three such cases 1951 Goose Bay 1956 Laken Heath and 1957 shrevport although Town residents argue to this day over what crashed in the woods that night the town Witnesses agree within an hour of the impact military forces swarmed the area almost as quickly as the arrival of Penn State Police and the kbur volunteer firemen 28 years I'm a farman here at cburg it does me good as a young old farman now that now we know that something did happen the military was here everybody here is correct in what they seen and what they heard uh I think because of the Del lay of the land and the terrain there was different points of vision from wherever they were at that point in time the outcome of our town meeting a majority consensus that something big did happen in kbur on December 9th 1965 and that despite the official report to the contract soldiers were on site regardless of USAF and Bluebook denying a presence of more than three men at kbur a statement that will later be contradicted by Dr Eric a walker kbur residents gave descriptions of multiple types of military men US Army soldiers equipped with M1 rifles USAF personnel with blue fatigues and blue Berets and men in civilian clothing seemingly barking out orders and some witnesses even described men in hazmat suits labeling them as Moon suits there are also Myriad local press articles like these from the Pittsburgh Press on December 10th that also contradict the military's denial of a presence at kbur the description of Air Force men may be Paramount to investigating this crash recovery case referred to as blue baray Leonard Stringfield made numerous mentions to a UFO crash recovery intelligence team stemming from the Air Force dawned and blue fatigues and blue Berets in Crash retrievals of the Third Kind a case study of alleged UFOs and occupant military custody Stringfield stated he had been made aware from other military forces of a rapid reaction Special Forces Unit named Blue beray who can quote operate secretly and effectively by using diversionary tactics to prevent public interference end quote this unit was housed at certain military bases as rapid reaction units in a constant state of ready to address downed or crashed UFOs Stringfield even stated to have met a former member of the elite blue Beret when visiting the University of Dade City Florida for a lecture quote we talked about the Elite Force its makeup and functions and some of his experiences in Vietnam Behind Enemy Lines although he had never participated in a UFO crash retrieval he was aware that one of his fellow members had the experience details were scanty but cam recalls that his friend referred to his participation in the recovery of a quote unquote big head from an alien Craft end quote in UFO crash retrieval status report for fatal encounters at Fort Dicks Maguire string Springfield met with a man named Jeff Morse who claimed to be a former blue Beret Morse would tell Stringfield in 1985 to 1987 about an incident at Fort Maguire Air Force Base in which a non-human entity was shot to death by US forces quite a bit to discuss about the blue Beret so maybe we will save that for another video but I do want to mention Air Force blue Berets were made famous with the creation of the USAF 1041 Security Police Squadron which operated during 1965 to 1966 7 the 1041 and their blue Berets were implemented in operation safeside in which the Air Force deployed a highly trained unit of combat security police known as active defense to repel raids on air bases in Vietnam but the origins of USAF Personnel in blue fatigues and blue Berets can be traced back to 1956 with the creation of the Strategic Air Command Elite guard under General Curtis lame who I've spoken about many times the sa Elite guards operated as air police from 1956 to 1966 within the time of our kbur case serving as part of the US Air Force and US Department of Defense the blue Beret Sac Elite guard were tasked with providing security at headquarters of Strategic Air Command of the US Air Force One such saac basees lockborne Air Force Base in Columbus Ohio remember the mention of this base as we will later discuss a witness who claimed to have briefly guarded the crashed UAP from kbur at lockburn AFB let's get back to kbur and analyze the events around the time of an object crashing in the woods with news media starting to swirl about stories of a fireball crashing in the area local news director John Murphy out of whjb Greensburg Pennsylvania received a call from a startled mother who claimed she and her children had observed a fiery object fall into the woods where a cloud of blue smoke began Rising after impact after listening to many such calls through the past years it's fairly easy to tell by the tone in a person's whether they believe what they're saying or whether it's a prank call this woman to me sound like she believed and was sincere over what she was saying this was a first piece of actual evidence we had in the early evening up until now it was lights in the sky and things that could not be checked out now we had something physical we had a object on the ground Murphy a key player in this story moving forward arrived to the woods and investigated the scene for some time before Carl Mets a state police fire marshal and another investigator arrives to the scene the two investigators entered the woods and Upon returning and being questioned by Murphy told Murphy quote you better get your information from the Army end quote Murphy would then arrive to the state police barracks in Greensburg for more information where he observed Army and Air Force men swarming the location I asked did you find anything down there he looked puzzled for a second and said I'm not Music sure then I said well let me ask my question a different way after you make your report to the captain do you think you or the captain perhaps may have something to tell me though Murphy had covered hard news for decades he wasn't prepared for the state troopers response he said you better get your information from the Army this was the first time anyone had made any mention of a military to refer me to the Army leted me to believe that perhaps there was something in the woods at death time they showed some significance of military value Murphy would interview many Town residents about what they saw and experienced in kbur the evening of December 9th and excitedly pieced together a radio documentary titled object in the woods curiously Murphy's wife and other whjb employees would State Murphy was approached by men at the station leading to a radical alteration of his program Murphy would broadcast a heavily censored version of his documentary starting the event with an a what disclaimer this station has not been contacted by any official agency of the state federal or local government we have received very good cooperation with the state police and with the military and we were able to receive all the information we wanted this past week we have not had any political or otherwise influence put on us concerning this program whatsoever and state that many witnesses whose testimony had been taped no longer wish to air their segments due to fear of reprisals from the US Army yesterday afternoon a woman from gburg area recorded for us what she saw what she reported and what the state police and Military Officers told her the object was she described for us on tape what and how it looked late this afternoon she notified this radio station that she was afraid of getting into trouble and she did not want her description of the object used on the air the other calls early tonight from some other people one person said that they was afraid of the State Police and another person said they did not want to get in trouble with the Army Stan Gordon would even go so far as to State he had received notorized documents from station employees claiming USG elements were confiscating news tapes of eyewitness accounts and were not allowing set accounts to be broadcasted John Murphy would tragically die in a hit-and-run incident shortly after the event and never claimed publicly to have entered the woods and to have seen what crashed in kbur but in 2003 John's wife claimed he had told her of entering the woods and witnessed a strange metallic object on the ground what was this object observed by so many and that later Witnesses would state was transported out of the woods in the early morning of December 10th by army trucks covered by a tarp fortunately we have numerous witness testimony to analyze there was uh no tail section there was no Motors there was no windows there was no doors it was big enough for a grown person to stand up in it had like Egyptian writing like backwards writing on it stars and circles and dashes and lines and things like that it looked like a an acorn it was really weird a firsthand witness questioned at length by both Stan Gordon and Leonard Stringfield is James often referred to as Jim romansky romansky served as a volunteer fireman whose company was dispatched to kbur to assist with the search of what was thought to be a downed aircraft romansky first approached Gordon in 1987 to tell his story he had previously feared ridicule for years but wanted to finally give his testimony on the night of 1965 with the search teams combing the woods romansky heard via walkie-talkie the crash site had been discovered upon arriving to the scene the firemen witnessed an object half buried in the ground this object appeared to have descended into the forest at a third 30° angle breaking tree limbs before impacting the ground and leaving a 25 ft long trench there were no signs of fire in the area I want you to describe what you saw when you arrived in this field where this supposed downed aircraft was well first of all we were in a field hunting for at this down aircraft and the first rescue team already found it and radioed Into the Fire hole gave the coordinates and it was down in front of us and we High tailed it out of our search area went down into there and we got there expecting a smashed up airplane Wings fuselage Etc no such character came down and through the woods and here's this humongous piece of metal laying there I mean this thing I've described time and time again as a very large egg corn shaped object the front of it or I presume was the front of it was pushed down into the dirt where the way it came in and landed after took out the top of the trees and brush and everything coming in came back in an oblong shape around the bottom was a what I call a bumper and then the bottom was perfectly flat no signs of propulsion or anything there was no doors no windows there was no ways of getting in this thing at least none that I seen there was no seams on it no rivets nothing the only thing I seen was this bumper around it and had these real strange markings on it which I've often referred to as similar to the ancient uh Egyptian hieroglyphics so as a volunteer fireman we did what we were supposed to do find the crash site through a preliminary investigation for survivors or treat anybody there which we didn't because there was n that we could see there was no way of getting in this object the object appeared to be a large metallic Acorn or Bell measuring 10 to 12 ft in length 8 to 10 ft in diameter the raised ring area measured about 8 to 10 in wide the wingless seamless and rivetless object was described as romansky as a a bronze off gold color as a seasoned machinist romansky stated the object almost looked like it had been made from a liquid metal mold and told researcher Stan Gordon quote never in my life have I seen the color of that metal in any shape or form end quote the presence of the described hieroglyphic writing has been a point of contention for the kbur case with some believing the object to be a Soviet Space Capsule and the writing to be Russian cilic romansky described the writing as quote characters of broken in straight lines dots rectangles and circles end quote romansky would even explicitly state to Leonard Stringfield he was familiar with the Russian language and the markings he observed were not Russian my dad is originally originally uh from Kei and I went to him one time and I said dad I says you could read and write polish and Russian he says yeah I said write me something in both dialects he says what I said just write me anything the Polish and Russian writing I seen doesn't come nowhere near I think it imperative to include much of Jim's testimony on the 1993 Montel William show due to his fiery and passionate demeanor and discussion of how his presence at the kbur case affected his children's time in the US armed services the first team had already ready in his position we're there 10 15 minutes all talking around doing a preliminary search wondering what we discovered Two Gentlemen come down through the woods trench coats on ram rod stiff crew cut all right this is a restricted area you're now ordered to get out of here wait a minute I'm a civilian you ain't going to order me nothing but as a fireman I'm being relieved from what I'm doing so I got out of there we're going out through the woods we didn't go no more than 15 20 ft and I know from me to you here come the military full uniforms equipment marching right down through the woods with flashlight this is December it's late in the evening it's cold it's wet how far away were you from a military base well the closest base that I knew of was Pittsburgh which was approximately 45 miles to the West So within 15 minutes of your arrival at the site the military was there you got it okay all right all right now what did they say to you after this happened I mean I know there were several members of the report I saw on Unsolved Mystery several members of the community were there people right other people part of the community were there and present were all told to leave there were there was no press or media at the immediate crash site M what I didn't know up on top of the hill because i' come in through the side the military had taken over a farmhouse I mean from what I understand military brass they took over up there did all their orders and whatever they were doing from up there and that's that's where I presume that the military who came down through the woods came from because when we went out we we had to walk back to the fire hall which is approximately the way we had to go I I'd say a good mile but by the time we got back to the fire hall it was wall toall military I mean there was trucks and jeeps and cars there was guards on the door did anybody say to you I don't want you talking about this don't say a word about this or were you with that term debriefed they did what they did I mean these people virtually told us just to shut up get to your vehicles and be quiet I got an I have a daughter and a son that both went into the military within the last 2 or 3 years one went in the Marine Corps one went in the US Air Force my daughter come to me from the United States Marine Corps and she said dad your name come up on a computer is my father I had to sign a statement saying I would never ask a request for any information from cburg my son had to sign two statements oh about you about yourself pardon any information about yourself you had your daughter had to sign a paper that said she would not ask for any information about you not about me but about kbur because my name come up as her father okay but you know what then no wait a minute Montel then my son in the US Air Force had to sign two papers one Jim wait get to just jump to the chase because part of the chase here is the fact that I spent I'm telling you I had some of the highest clearances this country has to offer I've been through files on top of files on top of files I still ain't seen nothing yet but did you have need to know do you you didn't have a need to know that's my son goes in the Air Force and they tell him he can't even request to go to right patters Air Force Base for Duty because I seen something and that's where my UFO is sitting did wait minute maybe his M was something that they didn't have a qualification for it right P his MOS has nothing to do with it okay all right hold on the government is covering this up they don't want no one to know they they want no one to get access to anything because they're afraid people will find out the truth during his time spent with Stan Gordon romansky would take the researcher to the exact site of the crash this site would line up identically to the description of our next witness Bill bully Bush who to the best of our knowledge had no interaction with romansky Bill bully Bush was driving his car in the afternoon of December 9th 1965 where he observed the object streaking over the sky Bill stated quote the object appeared to hesitate over the luraville area then made a turn and then began to travel Northeast towards kbur end quote where he then saw it descending witnessing the object's descent bill turned his car and went to the top of the hill now called meteor Road where he observed blue lights flashing in the woods as the sky was getting dark bully Bush claimed to walk into the woods to the crash light where he looked upon a metallic acorn-shaped object embedded into the soil the object featured the same strange writing noticed by romansky and Bully Bush noted blue arcing light emanating from the object at intervals and I I stood here and I happened to look up there and there there it was it embedded right into the ground about a foot foot and a half bully Bush's description of the object supports the theory that it was probably not a meteorite I uh was working on a 64 core of a at home I happened to see this red ball of far going across it come up and went towards the mountain just like if it was radio controlled it made a figure eight and it come right down in here and belly landed right in here knocked the top of the trees out it's stunk like rotten eggs you could smell it you know and then just like sizzling and and like Sparks come just like if it was cooling off it was red hot bully bush is the only witness I'm aware of to describe the presence of a smell the description of a strong smell in this case rotten eggs AKA a sulfuric smell reminds me closely of the strong ammonia smell Witnesses described in the 1997 Virginia Brazil case Bill bully Bush who fled the woods when he heard the fireman approaching independently described a nearly identical object I could see it pretty good there was no welding no window is no nothing on it and then on the back was a ring and it had like egyps and riding on it and I couldn't figure it out what it was from his statements we can piece together bully bush left the scene upon the arrival of the fire crew who witnessed the object for a span of 15 minutes until the men described by romansky ordered the firemen to leave and we do have a witness who states he observed the craft and retrieval crew departing the woods in the early 1990s I witnessed Jerry betters a Pittsburgh jazz musician came forward with his testimony at 41 years old in 1965 betters lived near the area of kbur in a town called murville Jerry noticed the now Infamous Fireball which agitated the horses he was feeding and surrounding dogs upon hearing the news report of the object crashing in kbur Jerry phoned his friends to pick him up and head to the town for a look unfamiliar with the area the men found themselves on a private Lane after rounding a slight turn Jerry stated he was halted by a military road block the soldiers halting traffic appeared to wear Army fatigues with cloth Berets but other soldiers equipped with rifles and helmets stood at attention behind the roadblock betters noticed a number of quote unquote military brass officers well-dressed civilians and Scattered army star and blazing jeeps and Personnel trucks Jerry's attention was commanded towards a large cast flatbed trailer he noticed a domed or acorn-shaped object that was uncovered in being hauled away from the woods quickly a tarp was placed over the object betters noted the truck seemed to have trouble traversing up through the field Jerry betters also described the truck in his encounter in a notorized document out of this Woods came this flat bed truck army truck on the back of this thing was this object Acorn type shape maybe it was a little bigger than the Volkswagen suddenly betters and his friends found themselves on the business ends of several soldiers guns this officer came down and he shouted at these solders he says get these people out of here they did they C their guns on us betters and friends were ordered to leave not before catching a glimpse of what was under the target what he still believes was a spacecraft from another world I could see what it was shaped like and I could see this hieroglyphic stuff all all around the back and that's when they chased us out there's two things I can remember very clearly I can remember when John F keny was killed exactly what I was doing and I can remember this night exactly know we do have other Witnesses who claim to have been held at gunpoint by the attending military forces one such individual is local resident David new house certain things you never forget first time I ever had a gun pointed at me kind of hard to forget that you know definitely a rifle straight up right at me and uh he got my attention that guy was in the Army and that was a military rifle that was an M1 I was looking at I was in the Army I know what rifles are I belong to the NRA as you see my sticker on the back I like guns I don't like them pointed at me though so they told us to get you know out of here and which we just turned around and came right back down the hill we didn't question him and in fact there are dozens of witness testimony from kbur locals and nearby CI citizens we could analyze all day like that of then teenager Bill Weaver who noticed four men exit a light colored box truck dressed in quote unquote Moon suits and head towards the crash area or then 14-year-old Mike Slater who stated an army officer told Mike and his friend they could do a great service to their country by sending curious crash Seekers wrong directions we even have witnesses who State they observed the craft after it was taken out of the field and we will address these shortly a bell-shaped craft big enough to fit a man with strange hieroglyphic writing was described by many civilian Witnesses the night of December 9th 1965 it is interesting how Blue Book contended the object was a meteor and that nothing was found at the crash site after all of the witness testimony and trajectory and speed calculations conducted while the object was in the air that are not consistent with meteor travel as mentioned earlier blue BL book did receive some fragmented material that was seen to fall off of The Craft sent to wrright Patterson Air Force Base Bluebook declared this material as chaff which is quote material dropped by aircraft to confuse radar complexes when participating in interdiction exercises end quote the conclusion of a meteor with presence of this said chaff leads to further inconsistencies in Blue Book's reporting early Skeptics of kbur stated the craft may have been the remains of Soviet spacecraft Cosmos 96 this conclusion was not not supported in a 1965 NASA press release which stated Cosmos 96 had decayed and landed in Canada roughly 13 hours prior to the kbur event this NASA briefing says quote other analyses of the spacecraft orbit definitively indicate it could not have been the cosmos 96 spacecraft end quote Stan Gordon further concluded the kbur event was not the result of Cosmos 96 when he received documents through foyer requests from both the US space command and Naval surveillance Center which verified Cosmos 96 entered the atmosphere at roughly 3:18 a.m. eastern standard time over Canada on December 9th 1965 some such as NASA Mission specialist James oberg maintained the object was a capsule of Soviet origin recovered in secrecy for its heat shielding joining us now from Houston is space flight engineer and author James oberg who has studied the reported sighting in cburg and has his own theory about what landed there in 1965 Mr oer first of all do you believe that something crashed in kbur in 1965 and was it a UFO if it's anything it might be something a lot more earthlike it might be a spacecraft from Russia and not from Mars it turns out we do know that a Russian probe fell back to Earth that day and it was a special kind of probe it was one of their probes to the planet Venus it failed was trapped in Earth orbit and eventually fell out of orbit what might have been on that Russian space probe that the us would have been so interested in oh the most most important thing about the pro would be the heat shield how thick it was what material it was made out of how heavy it was and once we knew that we could then analyze how big their Warheads would be in their icbms but in this clip it is necessary to mention oberg is still mentioning Cosmos 96 others have wondered if the craft was indeed a gemini or Orion capsule expelled in the area such as assistant chief of kbur Fire Department Jim Mae who got within 75 yards of the object but didn't get a clear view but the idea a of a man-made Space Capsule crashing into the Midwest of the continental United States was further discredited in this may 2000 Leslie Keen conference titled combating media ridicule and searching for evidence on the 1965 kbur crash case some of you may know journalist Leslie Keane as the writer of the 2017 New York Times article bringing the Pentagon UAP videos and ASAP tip to the public Zeitgeist in this conference Keen disgust her correspondence with Nicholas Johnson NASA Chief scientist for orbital debris at the NASA Johnson Space Center Johnson analyzed the orbital data of the Soviet Venus probe Cosmos 96 and determined the object could not have landed in kbur near 5:00 p.m. December 9th 1965 furthermore Johnson stated no man-made space object landed in Pennsylvania on the day of the crash well I was able to contact an important scientist from NASA probably the leading expert in the world on this issue and he was a his name is Nicholas Johnson he's the chief scientist for orbital debris at the NASA Johnson Space Center he was able to obtain the coordinates of Cosmos 96 so that he could calculate it if part of it had kept stayed in orbit after the crash that happened that morning could it have landed in Pennsylvania and he was able to determine absolutely not made the statement for us that it is impossible that that could have been Cosmos 96 and the more interesting statement he made was that in fact there there is no man-made object that came down over Pennsylvania on at 5:00 on that day there's no no man-made object that and he said that he has the databases and the knowledge to determine even if it had been some kind of secret experiment he would be aware of it he was also able to eliminate the project Corona which was a project that was dropping uh these these these um canisters it was sending out these spy satellites to Russia photographing things from the sky flying back over the United States and dropping canisters which were then retrieved some people have thought that that might have been what it was he was also able to eliminate that kean's work on retrieving official kbur documents is truly fascinating in the early 2000s working with the Coalition of Freedom of Information CFI Kean took legal action towards NASA for stonewalling files on kbur and in 2007 she won a settlement in October of 07 required NASA to provide hundreds of never-before-seen documents to keen and CFI while paying all legal fees NASA's search for documents on the craft was completed by August 2009 where NASA posted 20 pages of moondust documents with zero relation to kbur according to a NASA public affairs document quote NASA sent its files to the national archives for safekeeping 2 years after the kbur incident in 1996 the National Archives told NASA that the files had been marked as lost since 1987 end quote we won't spend any time on Mundus but if you have never heard of the program I highly recommend watching my video on Mundus which covers this program in depth along with its fellow programs UFO and bluefly tasked with recovering descended foreign space Vehicles during the Cold War it is a very strange convenience that files relating to kbur were lost forever but let's explore what Witnesses like romansky Bully Bush bers and Myriad other Witnesses describe crashing into the woods that cold evening so you got your flying eggs your Tic Tacs I guess you now call them we just call them pills your oldfashioned saucers Bells triangles whole Messa shapes but the ones that crash are almost always the eggs and the bells and they're smaller too I think they're the drones that are remotely operated and when they crash you have to get really lucky because they have a habit of just disintegrating many will remember when I covered this infographics crash retrieval operator video that contained a fascinating firsthand testimony very rarely do well-known UFO sightings describe a bell or acorn-shaped craft certainly not one that is bronze 10 to 12 ft high with strange riding along the base but as it turns out there are a wealth of similar sightings we can analyze let's take a look at this December 2nd 1952 blue book case into Quincy Louisiana where multiple eyewitnesses observed an acorn-shaped object emitting pink green red and yellow lights moving up and down in altitude for a period of 2 and 1/2 hours we can also Analyze This November 10 1956 blue book case in Massachusetts where both civilian and Military sources observed an acorn shape featuring a white base red side and Green Glow Bluebook labeled this case as probably the planet Venus on August 23rd 1957 blue book reported a sighting of a bell-shaped object climb and move out of eyesight of observers in New Jersey the case was explained away as a weather balloon from Philadelphia municipal airport around the time of kbur November 1965 to be exact residents in Manhattan New York reported to Blue Book of a bell-shaped UFO hovering above Manhattan during an electricity blackout there are over half a dozen other Blue Book cases I can reference off the top of my head like a 7 to 8ft Bell changing colors in 1965 seen over bunky Louisiana in the video description you can find additional Blue Book cases featuring Bell or acorn-shaped UFOs from 1957 1954 1965 and 1957 but I would like to draw your attention to a now deleted Reddit entry titled quote I worked on a team that dealt with nhi technology and left in 2018 end quot this alleged Reddit whistleblower is another in a long line of enigmatic Anonymous individuals who make astonishing claims on Reddit forchan or other message boards before deleting their profiles leaving users debating endlessly to the validity of their entries I will save exploring this testimony for a full video as I find this post fascinating but to summarize this post the leaker became disgruntled and sought to vent about his career within an agency that dealt with issues related to non-human intelligence one paragraph of this perplexing post caught my attention quote later I worked in a facility within a facility just like the one I had tried to inspect it stored a craft being near the craft for extended periods of time is extremely dangerous especially if it has been experimented on with power I didn't observe any injuries to anyone while I was there but all sorts of long-term nasty injuries were relayed to me through rumors and warnings the craft was shaped like a drle without the handle there was a large exterior piece that went missing when it was recovered the theory is it acted as a stabilizer although some argue it was a crude weapon end quot before we break this down the anonymous poster also said quote the shape was directly informed by its purpose every shape is custom molded in a metallic material that would revolutionize the way we travel if we had it end quote this method of molding sounds extremely similar to the statements of firsthand kbur witness and machinist Jim romansky because I've been a machine genus for almost 30 years now and I've cut a lot of metal and I've never run into it again never discussion of peril to human bodies and cognition when in proximity to UAP is being heavily explored in 2024 and has even been mentioned in a graphic in Lando's book imminent the craft description a dral without its handle sounds almost identical to the craft romansky bully Bush betters and others described the Reddit user also States a large exterior piece went missing when the craft was recovered well remember back to our 1965 Fireball Witnesses discussed pieces falling off of the Blazing Fireball in the Sky Blue Book even claimed to have retrieved pieces of chaff from the object interesting I am once again drawn to whistleblower Steven lovkin who claimed a special classified portion of Blue Book had actually recovered debris from the Roswell wreckage lastly the writing described as hieroglyphics reminds me of three other cases the writing on the Roswell debris described by primary witness Jesse Marcel Senor the writing along the lip of a crashed craft Danny shean observed photos of in the classified files of blue book while under order from President Jimmy Carter and the writings that appeared to project off of what was considered recovered weapon technology by witness ra at the offworld Technologies Division I will discuss Dr Eric a walker only briefly as I have already covered him in my Majestic documents project with Ryan wood and in my Robert sarbacher in the early days of the UFO crash retrieval video Robert sarbacher physicist and member of the US joint research and development board named Dr Eric a walker in an interview with Stanton Freedman implicating Dr Walker as an integral member to UFO crash retrieval and UFO study alongside Dr vavar Bush Dr Eric a walker was the president of Penn State University from 1956 to 1971 a member of many defense boards including chairman of the institute for defense analysis and the executive secretary of the defense research board from 1950 to 1951 throughout the 1980s Walker would be contacted by numerous UFO researchers such as William Steinman and Habib Henry aadel a pseudonym for Armen Victorian Walker would confirm attendance at meeting centered on UFO crash and body retrieval efforts in 1949 to 1950 discuss the validity of mj12 comment on the difficulty of breakthroughs in UFO reverse engineering and make all sorts of cryptic statements on needing to understand ESP to become involved with UFO programs let's break down this conversation between Armen Victorian and Walker where kbur is referenced and before we do an interesting note primary kbur researcher Stan Gordon did State there was a report of someone fitting Dr Walker's description at the crash site in the interview Walker states he went to the kbur crash site with two men from the military that were not on duty he also went with a fellow colleague of his when asked if it was a UFO recovered Walker States quote I cannot comment on that I cannot tell you end quote Walker would not comment on if he was at the crash site for long but did State he and the other men did not prepare any reports two men from the military but not on duty so we can rule out here that these were the three USAF Blue Book Personnel from the 662 radar Squadron dispatched to the crash site could Walker and his mention off-duty military companions possibly be the men in civilian clothes referenced by numerous eyewitnesses or possibly the men in trench coats who ordered romansky and the firemen away from the UFO and we must ask why did Walker not prepare any reports can we take Walker's refusal to comment on the presence of a UFO as an admission that non-human technology did in fact crash in kbur Pennsylvania and last part here Walker mentions a colleague of his accompanying him to the crash site in 19 1965 Walker was serving as president of Pennsylvania State University a shadowy witness I covered and spoke to is TB I highly recommend watching my UFO witness list redacted video to analyze his entire story according to alleged emails with Dr Steven Greer TB stated UFO program usaps unacknowledged special access programs are embedded within u arc's university Affiliated research centers for the Department of Defense as it turns out Pennsylvania State University does indeed have a uarc the applied research laboratory for the US Navy in fact Walker would help create the applied Research Center at the behest of the US Navy in 1945 following World War II where Dr Walker moved 100 Engineers from Harvard to pen State Not only was this ARL awarded the largest research contract in Penn State history $2.1 billion from the Navy the ARL also currently specializes in prototyping novel power and energy systems Electro Optics and directed energy could Walker and his colleague have been tasked with investigating the kbur crash for UAP program stemming from Penn State University's Affiliated Research Center the applied research laboratory in his 2024 book imminent Lou alzando named Lyndon B Johnson amongst Truman Eisenhower JFK Carter Reagan HW Bush and Trump as presidents who were breed into sum to all of the UFO phenomenon this statement by elzando plus his relationship with Dr Eric Walker who self- admitted he was present at the kbur crash leads us to do some serious investigation into Lynden B Johnson who served in office from 1963 to 1969 we can see in luncheon in the White House dated August 3rd 1964 Eric a walker amongst other colleague presidents met with Lynden B Johnson Walker was also the only University president to be invited invited by Johnson to attend the Clean Air Act signing in the White House in 1967 but we can also find a handful of letters between Walker and Johnson such as the September 10th 1964 letter in which the president writes Walker thanking him profusely for his service as a member of the board of visitors to the US Military Academy some unreferenced actions recommended by Walker were to be instated by the Secretary of Defense at Johnson's request this report very well may have nothing to do with UAP but Johnson and Walker were close enough to exchange personal letters let's also analyze the September 24th 1964 letter addressed to Dr Walker from Johnson requesting Walker to personally recommend a university student to honor as a young leader or how about this May 18th 1966 letter dated after the kbur incident in which Johnson again profusely thanks Walker for his service as a member and chairman of the national science board one Dr horck is mentioned here pay attention to that name for later in this letter Lynden B Johnson cryptically says quote I should also like to thank you for the unstinting manner in which you served your government in other areas including your recent tenure as a board of the defense science board end quote just how deep was this relationship between the president and a man associated with USG crash retrieval efforts Johnson also had a provable interest in UFOs during his time in the US Senate before his presidency in this article titled Lyndon B Johnson calls for UF alert we can see Johnson attempted to Institute a military subcommittee to report UFO sightings personally to him Johnson even wrote to Major Donald kho an excellent euphology and author of The Flying Saucer conspiracy in 1960 thanking Keo for delivering documented evidence on UFOs with all of this interest in UFOs and his relationship with the shadowy Dr Eric Walker what was Johnson doing during and after the December 9th 1965 kbur event and how much did he know in his 2024 release of all of his research files Grant Cameron has supplied incredibly crucial documents discussing Johnson's actions and meetings around the time of the cburg crash here we find president Lyndon B Johnson's schedule for December 9th through the 11th 1965 since the time of the kbur event occurred around 4: to 5:00 p.m. Eastern Standard we will begin to analyze late appointments on the 9th and meetings the following day the evening of December 9 the president seem to partake in many leisure activities dinner driving around the Texas white house watching the Evening News Etc on the morning of December 10th 9:50 to be exact solely an hour after waking we see a massive roster of guests arrive for an exhausting day of meetings the arrivals include the Joint Chiefs of Staff or JCS as I'll refer to him the secretary and under Secretary of Defense doctors such as the aformentioned Dr Donald Hornick high up USG officials NASA director James web and more while no meetings this day make explicit mention of kebur Soviet spy satellites or icbms every single one of these names offer crucial insight and a key piece to the puzzle of the kbur mystery in the possibility of a redin president addressing a pressing UFO crash retrieval almost immediately upon the guest's arrival the president began his meetings for over 2 hours from 10:10 a.m. to 12:51 p.m. Johnson met with The Joint Chiefs of Staff Bill Moyers Joe califano secretary MC Nera and secretary Vance there is a lot to break down here as each name warrants investigation The Joint Chiefs of Staff include US Navy Admiral Donald L McDonald who was in 1965 serving as the chief of Naval operations and general Wallace M green commandant of the US Marine Corps not much to analyze about these gentlemen but during lbj's presidency USF General JP McConnell served as chief of staff for the US Air Force upon taking his position on February 1st 1965 he relieved General Curtis lame if that name sounds familiar we have discussed lame earlier in this video and at length as the general who denied Senator Barry Goldwater to the Blue Room at Wright Patterson Air Force Base and congratulated Harry B Cooper for his work on the quote unquote UFO program L's ties to euphology are vast also among the JCS was US Army General Earl wheeler who sat as the chairman for The Joint Chiefs of Staff worth noting wheeler shot to the top of the ranks of the US military without much combat experience eliciting criticism from many including none other than General Curtis L who called wheeler quote Paulie parrot end quote a small detail worth noting after the meeting all of the Chiefs of Staff took a car ride with Johnson all but the underqualified wheeler the last Chief of Staff present in the early meetings is General Harold K Johnson chief of staff for the US Army Johnson spearheaded the eighth Calvary regiment which in Vietnam was a component of the First Calvary division The Division I suspected in The infographics Whistleblower video to contain the soldiers who witnessed the crashed UAP these Joint Chiefs of Staff were all overly qualified to be associated with the program and brief Johnson on the crashed UFO from the evening before but this trail goes even deeper as previously mentioned included in the morning meetings were Bill Moyers the personal assistant to l B Johnson Secretary of Defense Robert mcamera deputy secretary of defense Cyrus Vance and Naval veteran Special Assistant of the secretary and deputy secretary of defense Joe califano califano would attend many of the meetings with Johnson the day of the 10th but here let's make special notice to calfo's duty as a member of the federal radiation Council califano had a history of dealing with aerial collisions and crashes that required the atomic energy commission's involvement such as this December 4th and 5th 1965 case of a midair aircraft Collision what is interesting to note here is a subsequent off-record meeting with califano and Buford Ellington director of the office of emergency planning on December 13th 1965 4 days after kbur why was this off-record meeting sent to Grant Cameron from the lynen B Johnson library and Museum considered off- reccord following the JCS car ride excluding wheeler the guests engaged in lunch before Johnson met with MC namera Vance Bill Moyers and Dr Donald hornig as well as secretary Orville Freeman Donald hornig served as presidential science adviser to Johnson after also serving the late John F Kennedy Jr the presidential science adviser was a position first held by Dr vavar Bush to Franklin D Roosevelt and Harry Truman this should ring a bell to anybody familiar with the Majestic documents the last member of this post lunch meeting included secretary Orville Freeman US Secretary of Agriculture under Johnson from 1961 to 1969 why would a former Marine and secretary of agriculture be present at a meeting with three secretaries of defense and the science adviser to the president what is even weirder here is the presence of James Webb alongside an under secretary of agriculture I take you to July 9th 1947 just 2 days after the Roswell crash where James web sitting as the Director of the Bureau of the budget made late evening calls to Norris e God under secretary of agriculture this may very well be a stretch here but we must pursue all research angles was Webb discussing the Roswell event with Dodd and do positions like secretary of agriculture entwine more with UAP programs than we might think I won't spend too much more time on the meetings as we have already discussed the significance of most of the members in their grouping and I have glossed over some of the other interesting players like Dr Glenn seaborg who was a Nobel prizewinning chemist and atomic energy chairman from 61 to 71 I could make an entire video on the significance of this day of meetings but the JCS and every single individual summoned to Johnson's Texas residence the day after kbur holds massive importance and possibly signifies a day of briefings and meetings on the crash to further our investigation of kbur we can analyze multiple Witnesses claiming to have observed the kbur Bell after it was dragged from the Woods that cold winter night one such witness contacted Stan Gordon before the Airing of a 1990 Unsolved Mysteries broadcast on kbur and provided detailed information on his experience with the kbur craft according to this witness as a member of the Air Force Security team at lockborne Air Force base near Columbus Ohio he guarded the object on the early morning of December 10th 1965 after the object had been transported from Pennsylvania according to this witness after arriving on a truck the craft was backed into a hanger and security was greatly tightened around the base the object whose description matched the 10 to 12-ft bronze Bell apparently stayed at the base only a short time the morning of the 10th before being transported to Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Columbus Ohio and we do have witnesses who claim to have observed the bell at right pad this witness myON first contacted Stan Gordon after the Airing of the 1990 Unsolved Mysteries broadcast and was interviewed and investigated by the legendary Leonard Stringfield the trucker claimed the only reason he would discuss his experience was due to thinking quote it would be okay to discuss what he saw since it was now on TV end quote the word of Stringfield carries much weight for myself and others and regarding Myan Stringfield stated in UFO crash retrievals the inner sanctum status report 6 quote after a number of lengthy interviews and getting his testimony on videotapes at his home by a medical friend and research associate Dr Brian Thompson I feel convinced of Myron's sincerity end quote stringfield's analysis of kbur would remain extremely balanced we can take for example stringfield's discussion of an Insider known as Uncle who spoke to Stringfield through an intermediary as noted in 1993 status report 3 amassing the evidence Uncle told Stringfield he was on the right track with his research but cautioned of disinformation among uncle's statements were claims of understanding alien biological structures that UFOs were of benign origin and that the kbur case involved a crashed spy plane while the heavily contested Fort Riley and Johannesburg South Africa crash cases were true all this is to say that Stringfield did in fact note opinions against kbur but still pursued the case for well over a decade anyways back to Myron as noted for the record by Stringfield Myron stated he and his cousin JS worked for a family-owned Shale and tile brick Business in Ohio 2 or 3 days following the kbur crash the company was contracted for a large order of special glazed bricks to write Patterson Air Force Base the customer the US Navy according to myON sent a representative to the business to select and inspect the bricks myON claimed receipts of this transaction were lost when the business was sold to new owners the specialty brick in question was a quote double glazed engineered brick end quote myON would later State the purpose of these bricks were to build a double thick leadline protective structure around the kbur UFO to prot protect against radiation the shipment of bricks was delivered at a designated gate where myON and JS arrived in different flatbed trucks once outside R Pat a two or three star general dressed in a blue uniform led the delivery men to a warehouse ahead the destination for the bricks was a Brick Warehouse 50 to 80 ft inside accessible by a narrow blacktop driveway surrounded by rows of offices and a power plant to quote myin nearby the building was a quote Army 35 ft long triaxle lowboy that I later learned transported the object a tarp was still draped over its midsection end quote Myra noticed four or five frantic Personnel outside the building equipped with white coveralls visor headgear rubbered gloves and boots and a CT 45 pistol quot who were running around like chickens with their heads cut off end quot from Myron's point of view the people inside the warehouse were solely concerned about the object inside the building the personnel and deliverymen unloaded the Bricks by hand from trucks to pallets where Myra noticed the men were Navy not Air Force by Insignia on their uniforms during a break from unloading the shipment myON somehow managed to approach the warehouse's door undetected and peer inside he observed metal scaffolding around a large strange object with Men at Work puzzling to myON parachute silks were suspended from the ceiling partially enshrouding the object lit by one flood light directed downward the object was bell-shaped measuring an estimated 10 ft tall and less than 10 ft wide appearing metallic with a dull copper or bronze color but was charred or covered in a Sy residue finding pursuing this mystery any further irresistible myON asked one of the Personnel about his use of an acetylene torch myON told Stringfield quote probably thinking that my presence there meant I had a proper clearance the man who was wearing a visor told me he was trying to get inside end quote myON further explained to Stringfield the man told him all attempts to gain entry failed whether torch Diamond headed drill bits or acid this reminds me closely of the testimony of RB I covered in UFO whistleblowers 2 who stated he guarded a hamburger shaped saucer in 1963 for 2 weeks where a science team tried and failed with endless methods to gain entry to the craft myON then went on to explain quote I was surprised when he told me that if there were bodies inside they might be too hot for the mortician to handle end quote bodies are always a contentious and interesting aspect of UAP retrieval we will address this point shortly myON was then startled by the voice of a guard who said forget what you've seen or will lock you up and throw away the keys and we found the base and they took us from the back side of the right Patterson Air Base all the way through the main part of the base out the other side down Maple Street to the old Rec uh training center for World War II when I walked in the pril I seen the Bell shape it was U sitting there on stealths and it had a great big parachute or something draped down over the top with a light up underneath the parachute trying to cover this thing up so no one could see it and you could see a ladder leaning against the Bell where they was trying to get in through one of the openings and the guard said that you wasn't allowed to be in here but how already seen everything in there so it didn't bother me when he ran me back out the spaceship looked like a a large Acorn runs about 14 ft to the top and about 10 to 12 ft wide at the bottom with a collar on it that has writing on the collar and it had a triangle on it and it looked like the triangle was put on there with a welder by sticking the welder against the metal to shape the the writing and the writing was all the way around the Bell shape of it and the black the back the bottom of the Bell shape was completely black and around the top of the edges was was Smoke covered and the space thing looked like it was copper or bronze Stringfield contacted Myron's cousin on October 3rd 1990 JS as he'll be referred to was reluctant to get involved due to family reasons he did confirm delivering glazed bricks to right Pat with myin remembered guards wearing protective clothing and a technician with a blowtorch when Stringfield asked JS if he had seen the craft in the building JS stated quote I don't remember many details on that trip my partner probably knows more because he was more inquisitive fast forward to 1991 myON told Stringfield JS was willing to finally discuss his observations that fateful December day in 1965 on March 30th to April 1st 1991 Stringfield again interviewed Js Js told Stringfield a new story he did in fact see the object the day before he and Myon went to WR Pat he had made the trip solo with an initial delivery of bricks and clearly recalled an object shaped like the Liberty Bell sitting upright under a tarp aboard a lowboy trailer JS estimated the craft to be 8 to 10 ft tall and 8 to 10 ft wide quote I didn't ask any questions but it probably arrived a short time before I did endend quote JS discussed activity in the area men wearing fatigue suits and there were armed guards but he didn't see anyone carrying any sort of rifle or machine gun unlike the next day's trip quote there was nothing unusual at the entrance gate I gave the guard my identification and showed him my bill of landing and was directed to the area for unloading near the big red brick building end quote like most cases the discussion of bodies is the most controversial aspect of kbur in his appearance in the 2003 annual crash retrieval conference proceedings Stan Gordon discussed the subject of bodies present at the crash to quote Stan in more recent years I have heard rumors that are not widely known that two small bodies were supposedly found at the impact location in 1965 I have generally accepted this as hearsay since there has never been any evidence to back up these claims one one such testimony actually came from myON the trucker we just discussed who spoke to Gordon offering new details in 1998 in poor health myON agreed to meet with Gordon for a documentary Gordon was working on titled kbur the untold story Stan says as the two were discussing what myON saw in 1965 Myron suddenly mentioned something which caused Stan and the video production crew to look at the man with astonishment myON added to his previous testimony delivered to Gordon and Stringfield stating when he peaked inside the warehouse he observed the Bell propped up by scaffolding but he also saw a body lying on a workbench in the same room myON added this body was covered in a white sheet measuring 4 to 5 ft tall the only feature seen was lizard-like skin from a left hand sticking out from under the cover I walked in the building and seen the Bell shape there and they was working on it I also seen an object land on the workbench over there and the workbench runs about 10 to 12 ft long and about 32 in wide and about four or 3T about 36 in off the floor I seen the left hand of ever what was in there sticking out underneath of the sterile white pad and he only had three fingers was about 4 fo n or or 4' 5 in tall if it was standing up but it looked like it weigh about 80 lb and it had dark green or brownish skin and it was just like a lizard I have no doubt in my mind that the body laid on that table and the left hand of him was sticking out underneath of the white uh sterile pad that they had placed over him and he had the three index finger and his skin looked like lizard I asked myON why he waited so many years to divulge what he had seen in 1965 well for the reason I never said anything before because Uncle Sam said if if it word ever leaked out and they had to come and lock you up and throw the keys away or give you a bullet to satisfy you no one will ever talk about it right now is the time to tell it before something drastic happens and my son he's 24 years old and he said why are you going to do it now and I said well I may not live till tomorrow the next day to tell it so I'll tell it all tonight and be done with it the only thing I've got now is a bad heart and high blood pressure and sugar and on oxygen once in a while and and walking around taking nitroglycerin and only reason I'm telling you now because I may not be here tomorrow why add this onto his story after nearly a decade after his initial testimony another witness Joel contacted Stan after hearing local news covering Leslie Keane and the cfi's attempts to pry free kbur documentation Gordon would meet with Joel at his home in late 2002 seeing Joel go back and forth on whether or not to proceed with the interview in fear of getting in trouble for what he saw Joel claimed on the day of the cburg crash he entered the woods to investigate the crash Zone his attention was drawn to a metal object emanating bright clashes of colors like electricity Joel hid in the woods to observe Army and Air Force personnel men in civilian clothing and men in suits and hats enter the crash area Joel claimed to have obs OB ered an army General hop on top of the metallic object with a probe in his hand similar to an officer's billy club the general smacked the object and the tool flew out of his hands Gordon noted at this time Joel's expression changed to a far more somber and uncomfortable tone Joel stated soon after striking the object a hatch opened that swung from right to left at the front of the object accompanied by a whirling hissing sound Joel described a seene what looked like quote two fingers and an unusually long arm and quot in inside the hatch before it closed again the concept of bodies may be supported by the testimony of Bill Weaver I mentioned earlier in the video Weaver a teenager observed men exit a large light colored box truck in what he described as Moon suits the men carried a box-shaped device measuring 4 to 5 ft Square resting upon a stretcher with four handles a little while later there was a large truck pulled in a light colored truck a box van pipe out of it there was four guys come out they had what we called Moon suits at the time they were white coverall type suit they took a box out of there box maybe four or 5ot Square They carried it four handles and They Carried that down to the object about just right after that there was a military man come over to the car and he told us to leave and I got into an argument with him and told him I didn't you know I want to stay I didn't want to leave at that point he told me that he would confiscate my car if I didn't what's going on everybody it's UAP gerb thank you so much for joining me today as we took a deep dive into the 1965 kbur Pennsylvania UFO crash now what would you say if I told you today we just started to scratch the surface of this case like I mentioned earlier in the witnesses tab there are so many witnesses who have more to add to this story The reason I covered bul romansky betters Weaver and so forth is because I think their testimonies offer the most complete picture and insight into the kber story there are other residents who talk about a military base being set up in a home near them kind of like romansky discussed in his interview on Montel Williams there's other Witnesses who talk more about the military presence and how it might have been opusc from a certain point of view when the military had reached up on meteor Road and so forth so there is just so much Rich testimony to to pursue the kbur case has also seen so much coverage as we saw with uh kbur the new Roswell and kbur the untold story and kbur the Unsolved Mysteries episode in Stan Gordon's 1993 documentary there has been so much coverage on this case that is why I Tred to take a more a more focused approach on on breaking down the crash focusing on a select few Witnesses focusing on the overall story and kind of narrowing in on what happened to the craft the after the case as well as focusing on Eric Walker and Lynden B Johnson now those of you familiar with the case will know there are a couple things I didn't discuss here one of these was delock the alleged Nazi wonder weapon that was sh the exact same shape as the kbur bell similar shape to the Liberty Bell and that is because I would like to cover that and cover sort of Nick Cook's work in the hunt for zero point and the Nazi connection to UAP in a whole another video I also left out claim of kbur and affirmation of kbur from the witness Clifford Stone who testified in the 2001 NPC conference under Steven Greer I did this because of course Clifford Stone carries with him a little bit of controversy so I want to analyze his claims uh and his Merit before I put them into a kebur case in their own video now what were your favorite parts of this investigation for me I must say I just I adore Jim romansky I think he's an incredible witness probably my favorite eyewitness of any case the way in which he passionately talks about the case and any interview he has especially Montel Williams I really appreciate his demeanor I I think he offers valuable insights into this case and especially the Montel Williams show where he discusses kind of how his children faced issues with his experience at kbur also I hope everybody enjoyed kind of the oblique Look Into the Blue Beret I think that's one of the most crucial aspects of this investigation they to be investigated much more and I will continue to do so over the course of my videos investigate there the incident at Fort Maguire dicks as Lenard Stringfield supposed blue Beret Insider has claimed uh try to kind of focus in on the security police and Air Force Police aspect of the blue BRS and see if uh these guys might be used as a rapid reaction unit for kind of domestic or even foreign crash retrieval efforts also of course I've talked about it him in many videos and he's a person I view as sort of a Lynch pin to the whole UAP phenomenon Dr Eric a walker of course in this video we saw we we talked about this in the sarbacher video but we weent over his claims about uh saying he was in fact the kbur case and that he did know about Majestic 12 and uh Robert sarbacher was correct in terms of Dr Eric a walker being a crucial member in UFO crash retrieval but what was new to me here was the uarc the university Affiliated Research Center in the ARL at Penn State University I think there's some great connections there to explore and I will continue to do so as well also I found the uh lynen B Johnson connections with Dr Eric Walker as well as Johnson's meeting schedule the day after kbur fascinating now if you look in the show notes and uh you can also find these PDFs posted in my Discord if you don't want to go to the link of Grant Cameron's files but you will see all of the files I reference because I really recommend following along I just gave a brief sample of some of the content um we went over in this video but there's pages and pages and pages of Grant Cameron covering this case I also really recommend reading crash retrievals 1 through 7 string Fields work and seeing how he approached the kbur case over a span of 10 years it's really fascinating to see him kind of reference Uncle the alleged Insider he talked to a through a media intermediary with and just him uh interview Pete who is now of course J Jim ransky interview myON and so forth speaking of myON I find this witness so interesting initially I found it to be quite a red flag that um myON initially approached Stan Gordon in the late 80s and all and also spoke to uh uh Leonard Stringfield and it wasn't until 1992 1993 for Stan Gordon's newest documentary that mying touched on the topic of bodies when he had only commented on what a a Personnel at the base had said to him before about it being a hot issue for autopsies I think this case is a little different than something like the 1955 Del Rio case with Robert Willingham as Robert Willingham initially stated he saw no such bodies and then changed his tone in about um the Jeff rents episode maybe in 2008 2012 I want to say around the time of the uh the book by Noah Torres came out watching myin was very interesting because that was a a late popup in my research seeing his interview in the 1993 stand Gordon documentary he of course as he claimed felt much fear and that's why he kind of omitted the topic of bodies before now there are a couple other Witnesses who claim or are adjacent to body claims here such as Don Sebastian I didn't cover him just because I didn't see how his story really really gelled with other Witnesses because he described when he approached the scene and saw military men and was kind of hiding around observing the military operations he heard a loud scream from the forest no other individual in the present area has also admitted hearing this scream so I left that out what did you guys think of the kbur case I want to know everybody's thoughts this of course is such a famous case of course I think it's pretty self-evident this crash case has something very tangible something that actually crashed in the woods in kbur and this was not a meteor as Blue Book claimed I think the the discussion of the chaff discovered alongside the meteor where the Blue Book team from the 662 radar Squadron is extremely interesting I also am unsure about the claims of U uh a Soviet capsule or American capsule I think there's plenty of evidence and discussion to dispute the landing of a human-made space object I was really excited to relay this Bell shape to The infographics Whistleblower and that Reddit whistleblower post all too often in Crash cases we mainly hear about saucers or egg shapes so it's really cool to focus some attention on this kind of almost a liberty bell-shaped craft with strange hog hro hieroglyph writings on it I think it's it's such a unique type of craft especially as described by many of the witnesses just big enough to fit an individual maybe two the off-white the off yellow bronish color and the fact this alongside other craft description seems like it was made out of a single piece of metal like pouring liquid metal into a cast I love this case right now I lean towards this being a legitimate UAP retrieval case I think there's a a lot of evidence here a lot more evidence that needs to be pursued of course the only thing missing from this case with all of the witness testimony with Johnson with Walker with with with all the witnesses after the fact is some official documents and those of course are very scant in this case because apparently NASA lost them in 1987 but again let me know what you guys think I want to appreciate every single person here watching this video thank you so much for giving me your time I can't believe you guys will sit through about an hour and a half I think at this time video please remember to leave a like and subscription means the most leave some comments let me know what you think remember guys I have a patreon I don't charge for any extra content I don't gatekeep content on there only support what you think the channel is worth we got big things coming for the channel of course regular viewers will know that we're doing about one live a week I want to start doing some more interviews on the channel too I know right now the interviews I've had usually take 3 weeks or so to conjure up because there's so much editing and D I do want to do some pure interviews as well but of course I'll be in the lab working on my my interview skills because I can get very tripped up with my words as you all know but thank you so much for watching guys I will catch everybody on the next show thank you