Michael Herrera: UFO Whistleblower (ft. Joeyisnotmyname)

was something that stuck out so well it's always going to be basically imprisoned in my mind for the rest of my life and it has been for 14 years you look down into into the valley yep and there's a clearing there's a clearing with a UAP yes just sitting there sitting there rotating clockwise yep and that's in transition this color spectrum I was telling you too so as far as from a distance yes that looks very accurate to what I saw Rogue military force if you will the most concerning thing about this is they all had American dialects they had American Gear they had otvs black they had black camouflage they had very similar setups to what we had but more high speed something what you would see special operation Operation groups these days have they had no insignias on and that's what I thought it was it I thought they were going to smoke us you know and they kept saying that you know we're we can kill you right now you know they're as as this is at the start of the year I made a video titled the Marines who got too close to UFOs where I talked about two whistleblower testimonies of men who encountered UAP throughout their military service in the USMC and this included Jonathan weant and of course Michael Herrera and guys I'll admit my biases while I was really supportive of Jonathan Wan and found his story to be credible I was really dismissive of Herrera now for Michael Herrera I'm torn on his story I just I'm not sure about that this all changed when redditor and now my good friend Joey is not my name reached out to me and asked if I was the creator of this video Joey told me that he had been investigating Michael deeply and that he and him had actually established a relationship and talked weekly I even left a paper trail with certain people including Joey is not my name and there's been a person who has helped with that Joey That's Not My Name uh you if you're watching this thank you for your help is a more of a person you know who has BR attention to detail in a lot of things which is remarkable his Reddit handle is Joey is not my name and finally he told me that he had enough evidence to attest to the fact that Michael met a man an Insider in the black reverse engineering program this brief exchange of messages led to a fast friendship between Joey and myself and for months actually he and I have been talking every day on messaging video calls and phone calls discussing Michael's case and throughout this time he has shown me some of the astonishing evidence to both support Michael's claims of his experience in Indonesia and his experience meeting an Insider in the black reverse engineering programs so today guys I am thrilled to tell you that I actually have my good friend Joey is not my name on the show to talk about his experience investigating herrera's case and discuss some of the evidence he's actually found to corroborate Michael if you've never heard of Michael Herrera I'd be shocked especially after so much renewed interest in his encounter after being all but named in the Abomination that is the aerrow historical report volume 1 but for those of you who don't know or may need a quick refresher let's Briefly summarize Michael's UFO whistleblower encounter and guys please note as I talk about Michael's testimony I will be recounting it as fact As Told by Michael the reality is there is still no way we can prove with evidence that Michael encountered this UFO in the jungles of Indonesia but we can prove with fact some of the context around Michael story such as the military mission in Indonesia and the relief effort by the USAF and Marines in the summer of 2023 Steven Greer's National Press Club event featured an array of whistleblower individuals ranging from credible to somewhat dubious one of these men was a USMC vet who seemed emboldened to break his 14-year silence yet nervous to reveal himself to the public it was here Michael Herrera first told his story to the world in 2009 second Battalion fifth Marine Michael Herrera at this time a 20-year-old sa Gunner was called into Indonesia for a human relief Aid mission after the devastating Sumatra earthquake in tsunami Michael was stationed on the USS Denver which is oddly enough the name of both of our hometowns this was the only ship routed to the West Coast of Indonesia from the US 7th Fleet in October of 2009 herrera's unit was informed they would be providing security to Aid in the delivery of food and medical supplies and it's crucial to note although humanitarian missions generally do not see soldiers equipped with weapons the first Marines reportedly were and in this case M16 a4s due to the heavy presence of terrorist training in the area herrera's team arrived near pandang from ch-53 hilos at a hasty LZ where the team pushed to a high ground for reconnaissance purposes and it's worth noting and rightfully one of the biggest points of contention surrounding Michael's testimony Herrera States his team was not equipped with radio coms and Michael himself States this was highly abnormal the team treed up a ridge at an elevation of roughly 300 M Herrera had on him a Panasonic camera and was taking images of the surrounding area once the Marines reached the high point of the ridge something quote stuck out like a sore thumb end quot against the jungle terrain there was a craft rotating just above the tree line transitioning colors between a light matte gray and a dark matte black perplexed the team decided to approach and investigate and it's key to note Michael did in fact take pictures of The Craft with the camera he stored in his spent magazine pouch reaching down the slope the USMC team was about 150 M from the craft it was from here Michael estimated the craft to be 300 ft in diameter it was octagonal in shape rotating clockwise with v Banta black exterior panels and a pyramid type shape on top the craft let off an audible hum almost like a guitar amp the craft floated 15 to 20 ft above the ground surrounded by a quote Rogue military force what was astounding is these men featured American dialects American Gear and similar setups the Marines had but with much better equipment these men had no rank no Insignia eight of the men engaged the Marines directing their weapons at the soldiers and flipping off the weapon safeties screaming at the Marines asking what they were doing there and threatening their lives terrified the Marines complied they were padded down and stripped of their weapons the Rogue operators even knew to take the Marine's military IDs out of their left breast pocket where they snapped pictures of Herrera and his fellow Marines identifications during this time Michael occasionally shifted his glance back to the large UFO were four F350 sat with weapon cases and containers with an oxygen or humidity control unit which held what Michael would later come to learn were human beings the F350s loaded the supply onto a platform below the craft when the platform itself Rose from the ground connected with the craft and the two connected pieces shot off Westward instantaneously no rotor wash no exhaust no Sonic Boom none of the surrounding vegetation was Disturbed in any way the Marines were told to turn around Michael thought that this was it they were dead until the operators began reloading the soldiers equipment and magazines back onto their persons escorting the Marines back up to the slopes The Operators told Michael and his fellow soldiers they were not allowed to look back or talk about what they had seen breaking the hillside the Marines ran back to the LZ where a resident Gunnery Sergeant grew furious at the non-combat effective Marines flying back to the USS Denver an admiral debriefed the team and a few days later while on leave the battery and SD card to Michael's camera were taken along with the fellow Marine cell phones and finally when the USS Denver tracked back to okanawa a man in USAF Blues with no name tag pulled Michael into his office where he told him to never tell anybody of his encounter regardless of chain of command discussing the event with lead to imprisonment or death Michael was then forced to sign an NDA to never speak about the experience and um what really triggered me into uh being motivated to look into the case myself was hearing all of the negative reaction towards him um for reasons that I felt were really flimsy you know people were criticizing him because they didn't you know he said they didn't have radios and or like because he he mislabeled the name of a rifle or something and I just I just thought that was pretty absurd to to completely dismiss a whistleblower when you're literally sitting here considering a story about a 300t UFO but because they didn't have a radio that's too unbelievable for you you know so let's just dismiss the whole thing if the UFO community did not have the um open-mindedness and patience um in space to provide a whistleblower to um you know give time to investigate and and vet the story and if we were just going to shoot him down immediately for like really lame reasons I like how are we going to expect the the general public to um to take this seriously if we can't even you know give it give it a chance you know so I mean the other thing was like it dawned on me like this is a military operation uh and humanitarian operation so there's a ton of photojournalism uh journalists you know um military report and assessments that were done all around this operation so I saw that as a great opportunity to begin digging into the details uh to see if I could find any conflicts with uh Michael's testimony and I ended up finding the opposite that that I was corroborating everything that I could find corroborated what he was saying now obviously that doesn't prove he saw UFO but it it does corroborate all of the details around that operation that he was on and so um I I made a post on Reddit kind of you know detailing those things that I found Joey's first Reddit post titled verifying the events around Michael herrera's UFO encounter part one sought to confirm all the little bits and pieces of the military operation in 2009 logically if Michael could be found to be lying about any detail regarding the humanitarian Mission his whole testimony could be thrown out the window as another UFO wannabe Joey provided documentable evidence to support all of the contacts Michael provided including the USS Denver was the sole ship assigned to support Indonesian military efforts regardless of Michael finding the strange the 31st Marine Expeditionary Unit was present at this operation ch-53 Super Stallion Choppers were used to deliver Aid and finally the confirmation of hasty lzs through a blog post which detailed efforts done by the US forces to deliver supplies to critical and remote areas of course none of this actually proves that Michael saw a UFO whil in service but this post does confirm key smaller elements of his story including accurately depicting the military op in Indonesia Joey includes a call to action asking Michael to reach out for further investigation so my plan was to do a part two where I would I wanted to figure out where the landing Zone was and so I thought if I could reach out to Michael and we could work together to figure out where the landing Zone was I have a 3D modeling background so what I wanted to do was import that terrain uh into you know some 3D modeling software and be able to perform like additional analysis to cross check his estimates of distances and Heights and scales of things um and I also thought it was important to illustrate the distances that are involved in this um encounter because the landing Zone was almost 7 or 800 meters away from where the craft was was cited with a with a hill in between uh in the middle of of jungle and so that was I that was really my my only thought uh for for reaching out to Michael I had no idea it was going to you know kind of spiral Spiral much deeper into to what it has I mean how how rare is it that we get any sort of testimony that isn't that's literally just it you know most times it's literally just testimony it's just someone's verbal account of what happened there's no evidence there's no nothing and here we have a military operation that has you know aerial surveys being conducted um I'm sure there's plenty of satellite imagery you know that exists and just all of the different records that kind of track the movements of of things um you know it just that reason alone seems like a very exciting case to dig into where you have a lot of opportunity to uncover data literally that same day that I emailed him um he called me that night we spoke for about a half hour and um you know I got the sense that he respected the amount of effort put into that post and just the you know just putting in the work I have a feeling it was part of why he started to trust me and and respect me uh moving forward you know he started trusting me with with certain sensitive information that that did help you know back up some of his some of his claims um circumstantially I'll say then he started telling me more about this Insider the discussion around this program Insider who met with and disclosed leaks to Michael is where some followers of this case including myself justifiably raise red flags and heighten their skepticism but who is this Insider and for what reason did he meet with Michael what can Joey tell us about this meeting and how can he prove Michael was flown out to a secure facility to meet with this shadowy figure and also do not worry when we get to the actual contents of the meeting we will of course discuss all of the leaks that were told to Michael by this Insider Michael's first encounter with this Insider was actually meant on his first public appearance on Steven Greer's National Press Club panel which come to find out through recent relevations from yesterday from uh somebody who came forward to Dr Greer I don't know who they are but what they had told him and what he has told me is that this gentleman knows exactly what these were used for because they had like a cylinder on the front which is either for oxygen or what I hypothesized was for vacuum ceiling uh which B me to um suspect that they were smuggling narcotics or drugs um come to find that was more disturbing than that um this gentleman has firsthand account with this and says that it was for people this Insider uh wanted to meet Michael in person and so he uh asked Dr Greer to make the connection and so you know he introduced the two or or passed along phone numbers or whatever and and so Michael's telling me all this you know that this this Insider wants to meet him and all this stuff and and I found it very suspicious you know I found it very uh strange that that not only would he have this um really incredible story about seeing a UFO in Indonesia a huge 300 foot UFO which is is pretty unique I don't know I personally don't know of too many stories like that that big and now you're telling me that that literally an Insider wants to meet you like come on this is you know this is pretty outrageous you know how did uh how did Michael react when he was approached by The Insider was he excited was he skeptical was he possibly worried for his safety scared he was he was very he he I mean the last time if you think about it like the last time he's interacted with any of these people they had guns pointed at him and you know were threatening to kill him and stuff and and so now here's someone you know allegedly associated with that and um but he just felt like if he wants to move this forward he's got to he's got to take the chance and and do it and for me you know at the time this was pretty early on in my um interactions with Michael and I I didn't feel like I had the sort of relationship with him where I could you know ask questions or provide advice or anything like that you know I was basically just kind of respectfully um you know taking information from him that he felt comfortable sharing with me um but I wanted to scream at him and say dude like are you crazy and and mind you I went back and forth constantly through this period where I would allow myself to pretend it's all real and like you know let myself just kind of sit there for a minute and be like all right let's say this is all real holy crap this is crazy like he can't go and meet this guy he's going to kill him you know um and then there were times where I would be feeling the opposite and being like okay this is this is clearly like a setup and he's telling me stuff um that he's telling me is sensitive but in reality it's uh he wants me to leak it but he's telling me not to it's like reverse psychology or something and you know I need to be really cautious here and so that was um that was what was going through my mind at the time and and and it was very much back and forth but I also felt like I was in a pretty good position because this wasn't anything I had to take action on I had reached out to him to kind of like try to figure out where the LZ was and then it kind of just snowballed into this other thing um but I felt like I was in a great position because there was really no risk or harm in me just letting things play out and see what happens you know Joey was rightfully extremely confused and skeptical as to why Michael confided so much information to him about The Insider and the meeting time date and location it was then Joey actually realized Michael was using him as a dead man switch Michael feared what might happen to him being taken out to an unfamiliar location by unfamiliar people and in case he was in fact killed Joey should release any and all information he had that was what made me the most susp icious cuz it was like he was trusting me with information without any real justification and then I realized you know that he was going out to meet this guy and I got the feeling that he was you know telling me this information in case something happened to him and I I called him out on it and told and you know he basically said like yeah I you know if something happens to me while I'm out there you know I want you to release all this information I'm very happy that Joey brought this next point up as he has never actually talked about this publicly the day before the meeting Joey and Michael had a conversation about the meeting and Joey recorded this conversation without Michael's knowledge I called Michael and had a conversation with him about the meeting and I recorded it without his knowledge and I did that um because I felt like I needed proof um in case I did need to in case something did happen to him and and I couldn't get in touch with him and I needed to reach out to someone to prove that yes I'm in touch with Michael and these are the things he's told me and now I can't get a hold of him I didn't think anyone would believe me unless I had some sort of proof that I was talking to him so I recorded that I think I actually shared that with Music you hey Michael hey what's up a little time before I have to kick off this meeting here at 9:30 oh okay uh yeah well I just you know first of all wanted to check in with you see how you're how you're doing how you're feeling good and uh tomorrow's a meeting with these guys so I'm kind of you know I'm nervous about a little apprehensive but right if this is going to get carried any further then I need to you know I need to speak to the horse's mouth so speak so I've I just you know it is what it is at this point but it's  __  crazy yeah I yeah I just kind of checking in I mean like gez um so everything's basically all set for the meeting yeah tomorrow for tomorrow so yeah so I arrive there around o'clock yeah their time and then there's they're picking me up with with picking me up they got they're putting me in right then I'm going to some apparently there's a facility out and that they're taking me to and then flight somewhere to go see some things so I don't know what that entails but yeah yeah okay um and then you're going to touch base with me after afterwards at some point yeah okay um all right Michael well be safe my friend and uh look forward to touching base with you when you get back Roger that man uh thank you for being involved with this too and you know I'm glad that you're checking up on me cool you know it's it's great so yeah as soon as I get more information if I'm able to release some things um after this meeting then uh I'll let you know okay sounds good all right buddy thank you all right bye bye what stood out to me most about this conversation was the fear in Michael's voice he sounded scared like he didn't know what was going to happen to him and yes he did provide specific details and also Joey did tell Michael about this recording later on so please don't hold that against him Michael knows but using this information provided by Michael Joey was able to verify many of the details that Michael claimed think tracking flight records and such there's other evidence that I can't share publicly um I think I did I did share that uh like some censored a censored version of that evidence with you and guys I have seen a lot of people dismiss or get on Joey's case for not sharing this evidence he has in fact shown me a censored version of this evidence and if Joey is telling the truth which I believe he is and showing me an UND doctored version of this evidence I can say with a high degree of certainty that this meeting did in fact take place this isn't to say anything about what The Insider showed or told Michael I can't comment on that legitimacy nor can Joey we don't know the evidence of course is not mine to share or to an extent even Joey's there is a larger behindth scenes investigation here being conducted that if shared publicly could compromise the investigation or at the very least Le make it somewhat hairy I personally hope that the finer details of this investigation and Joey's evidence will come to light soon I essentially was able to prove that Michael was taken to a a secure facility is how I refer to it with this Insider and so for me and and the thing is is like I didn't have to rely on any Trust of Michael like I didn't have to rely like none of this is contingent upon me having to trust any word uh that any person has told me this is objective data and evidence that I used to to verify this when he got back uh and we started talking I didn't immediately reveal to him that I was able to track where he went and so I used that opportunity to further vet and and you know CR you know criticize not criticize but um validate um you know his account um so I was asking him specific questions about timing um so at this location Michael was both shown and told things by this Insider what was he shown he hasn't told me what he saw there he said he he signed an NDA so what was Michael told strangely enough this Insider was okay with Michael telling Joe and the greater public about what he was told at this meeting now Joey and I are both a little apprehensive to discuss these points as we cannot back these up with any evidence however it's important to discuss anyways I feel a little uncomfortable like going through kind of the the speculative stuff that this Insider has told Michael because it's nothing I've been able to verify well according to this Insider he is an advocate for disclosure and has been in the program for decades remember guys all of this is speculation this could very well be purposeful disinformation by this Insider or utter nonsense but I want to talk about these statements due to the existence of The Insider and the reality of the meeting fortunately Joey has made a post on Reddit detailing this information which will be on screen now and in the show notes this is all content Michael has relayed publicly or given Joey permission to share within the USG there are two groups studying UAP the blue group and the black group group the blue group consists of programs with proper congressional oversight think Arrow a tip Blue Book Etc black group is an organization founded in the 1940s to reverse engineer nhi Tech the lack of oversight accountability and endless reach of this black group mirrors almost identically what is spoken about in the Wilson Davis memo this black group has successfully reverse engineered nhi craft to an unknown degree of success but utilizes these craft for operations the flying crafts are considered quote boring tech there are other technologies that are far more exciting and in The Insider's words utilitarian for Humanity EMP like Weaponry has been developed that can Target and disrupt and disable UAP crash retrieval programs are able to lure UAP to locations where they are disabled via the EM weapons and craft and bodies are recovered now we get into some of the real woo and trouble stuff the program recruits people with quote psionic abilities and quote referred to as P3 often from third world Nations these individuals are needed to interface with and control nhi Tech recruits from these third world countries are often bargained with to join the program in exchange for security and safety of their families likely due to the permanent or semi-permanent isolation of the recruits while in the program this is the operation Michael stumbled upon in acknowledge how I know that um I will say that there are other people who have corroborated the existence of this Insider to me personally I know that he took Michael to this location and so due to what I know this location to be officially uh it leads me to believe that this person has has quite a bit of authority to be able to bring him to this location in the nature in which he did uh because my you know my first question is like how the heck does anyone get to bring a random person Michael Herrera especially a civilian at the time for sure yeah like how like that's impossible right like there's got to be all this security and like you know crosschecking and and surveillance of like every person who's walking in and out of the place in the way this all went down was just like holy crap he literally did that so like what are the implications of that you know so I know Michael was taken to this location and I know The Insider exists um but I don't know if anything The Insider is saying is true so the Insiders provided Michael with a lot of leaks you know information about the black program he's specifically involved with cl the crash retrieval aspect so the question on my mind and I'm guessing all of yours too is why why did this Insider tell all of this to Michael if this was a scop why bring Michael all the way to this black site and show him all this unknown stuff and even if The Insider is lying this still does not account for Michael's experience seen the UFO in 2009 that experience is not negated if this is a SC up to me both sides of the coin seem somewhat logical and plausible I often think back to the story of Paul benowitz who in 1989 was driven to Insanity by being fed false information about extraterrestrials by the CIA this is a fascinating story I might cover one day because it's really worth knowing on the other hand if this figure is pro disclosure but does not want to be public it does make sense for him to use Michael as a vessel let's see what Joey thinks these guys don't want to come out publicly you know they have a lot of a lot at risk um personally they don't they have no interest in being like public figures about this topic um there are allegedly a lot of factions within the program who aren't interested in this becoming uh disclosed and so you know there's there's personal risk with that as well and so I think you know he saw in Michael um someone who was already comfortable with that risk of being a whistleblower and because he had that connection of of of understanding the operation that Michael had witnessed um felt that he would be a good person to you know try to reach out to something that raises suspicion about The Insider for both Joey and myself is the story of a book a few weeks after the meeting The Insider told Michael he was in the process of writing a book under a ghost writer the purpose of this book was to hide truth and fiction similar to secret machines by Tom delange this book is titled Sentinels of ether what sticks out to me as concerning here is the book was framed to be corroborating evidence to support Michael's story however the Connecting Threads are thin at Best in fact this book is about an event that occurred in Mexico in 2004 in which a paramilitary group in the black program wipe out an entire jck team during an operation the black team is described as transporting humans inside shipping containers to a hidden base in a mountain which is similar to the containers Michael Herrera describes in his encounter I didn't mention this earlier but one of the things that Michael had been excited about uh with this meeting was he was supposedly going to be given some evidence that would support his his claims you know and this is what that ended up being was this this book yeah and I'm like how is a fictional book supposed to corroborate anything you know um and it's not even about the event that Michael saw it's something completely different that happened The Insider actually provided a two chapter manuscript of the book currently under doser review to remove classified information in The Insider's own words he is playing a scheme or 4D chess on dobster and of course for those of you who don't know doser is the defense office of pre-publication and Security review this is what David Rush is currently going through with his oped right now so he doesn't divulge any classified information and he does uh provide some context as to the sort of scheme that he's he's trying to play on Doster where he's intentionally you know including certain information that he knows um you know shouldn't be flagged by Doster because it's like deep black uh projects that shouldn't be acknowledged and he's trying to see if they'll catch it and it I don't know it just sounds it just sounds a little sketchy to me to be honest in fact The Insider directly quotes quote Our intention is to put the dod in a pickle by creating dilemmas we are strategically taking advantage of the fact they must respond they don't have a choice no Poker Face any response will provide us with information SL intelligence and inverse intelligence one of the other things that Joey has more information on than almost anybody else are the thoughts and words of Michael's fellow platoon members who were with him in Indonesia in 2009 according to the original Daily Mail article that was written on Herrera the other four or five Marines in herrera's platoon were too scared to come forward bar one text message that read quote hey man this is asking too much of me it's not worth the risk my family and military career far exceed anything you are asking of me it's not worth my life or jeopardizing my family I know we go back but this is asking too much you need to get out of whatever you are in and don't get me involved so I've talked to a handful of people who were in his platoon and were on that mission um on that ship I I would say not the not the the UFO Mission the alleged UFO Mission but I'll say you know the Indonesia relief effort Mission or operation I will say that out of those people that I have spoken to all of them believe Michael is lying um except for well except for one there's one person that I've reached out to uh and and asked for permission to ask some questions about it and he just said no thank you and leave my name out of everything um but everyone else thinks Michael's lying but the thing that's interesting is you know once I get into conversation with these people they quickly reveal that uh you know cuz someone says very strongly I know he's lying my followup question is oh so you were boots on the ground with him in Indonesia and their reply is well no I was in a different squad or oh no I was I was I stayed on the ship I didn't leave the ship and so immediately I'm like well you can't possibly know he's lying cuz you weren't there like how can you say you know he's lying so you know that was really disappointing to hear however I still I still maintained conversations with these people because they did you know certain certain people provided some um you know personal photographs that I was able to you know there was nothing crazy in the photographs but it did prove that they were in um you know the tobing airport where the coordination efforts were were happening but there's one person who I do find very credible uh who who speaks against Michael I I I'll just say his first name his name's Nathan and he was Michael's team leader and he provided so I I've had several um you know text conversations with him and he provided a photograph um that he alleges shows Michael and another Marine on a helicopter um and he says they're all being flown into Indonesia they they they don't have rifles right this photograph is important because if it is proven to be Michael it kind of shows that he's lying about um something you know you know most of the story gets kind of discredited because you know the big part of Michael's story was he had rifles and you know um he was with different people um so Michael you know I I did share that photograph with with Michael I didn't give him any context I just said do you know do you know who's in this Photograph and he provided two names and you know then I explained you know that the allegations that one of one of the people is him and and he denies it he he very strongly denies it and what's interesting to me to kind of play towards Michael in in a way let's say Nathan's telling the truth let's say Michael did fly in with him without rifles and let's say Michael was on that flight right what that would mean if he is lying about this UFO thing that means he was thinking let me let me make up a story about a UFO uh but also let me lie and about a mission I know I went on with my squad even though he knows there were Witnesses and he knows you know his photo is being taken that just doesn't make any sense to me like why would he like he could have very easily just said yeah that is me in the photograph uh but I also took a different flight in later on or earlier in the day you know he could have made it so he could have just acknowledged that both things are true and it would have totally negated that photographic evidence the question of rifles or lack thereof in Nathan's alleged photograph is crucial since Indonesia 2009 was a humanitarian Mission Marines were not supposed to be equipped with rifles as I stated earlier and what was actually confirmed to Joey by all the Marines he spoke to the first wave of Marines in Indonesia were in fact armed but subsequent deployments were not due to bad Optics allegedly an Air Force Colonel yelled at the Marines and ordered them to stop utilizing rifles and now the reason why probably half of you are watching this video with a renewed interest in my Herrera the arrow historical report volume 1 within this report Michael Herrera is all but named as somebody who testified to Arrow stating quote an interviewee who is a former US service member said in that 2009 while participating in a humanitarian and security mission in a foreign country he encountered US Special Forces loading containers onto a large extraterrestrial spacecraft and guys I probably don't need to explain this to you but Aero historical report volume 1 is not the most accurate report we've ever seen in fact in this two to three sentence summary of Michael Herrera there are two factual inaccuracies one Michael never claimed he encountered US Special Forces what he said was he encountered men with American dialects with American gear but no rank no Insignia no identifiers to where they belonged and two Herrera said even from his first statement he thought the craft he saw was human reverse engineered not extraterrestrial is this just awful writing or purposeful disinformation I lean more towards purposeful I think this is so bogus and just in a two- sentence summary getting so many facts wrong in my opinion this sort of misreporting is on purpose and a symptom of the larger sickness that is this report and I just want to touch on what seems to be a big misconception in the UAP community on Twitter and Reddit at the moment on page 32 under the section the UAP with peculiar characteristics refers to an authentic non UAP related sap some people are confusing this statement as describing Michael Herrera in the statement it says Arrow was able to correlate this account with an authentic USG program because the interviewee was able to provide a relatively precise time and location as first pointed out to me by Joey Michael narrowed down the timing of the event to within a couple couple days but he did not know the precise time and Michael did not know the exact location of the landing Zone in Indonesia in the same section whatever person was writing this eror report stated that the seemingly strange characteristics reported by the interviewee matched closely with the platform's characteristics which was being tested at a military facility in the time frame the interviewee was there but again as Joey points out Michael's encounter occurred in a remote part of the jungle in Indonesia not a military facility what was massively vindicating to Joey and something that made him Place more trust in Michael and he even relayed this to me months before the arrow historical report volume one Michael had actually told Joey and provided him proof that he had testified to Arrow uh he said that they didn't record his testimony like they did they weren't actually like electronically recording his testimony um there were just people in a skiff and some of them had notepads and were just like taking notes occasionally so the summary of his his testimony in the report could literally just be the result of poor note taking uh and I am perfectly comfortable with with accusing them of doing this intentionally because um you know it certainly seems like something that they were trying to uh prevent as much of a paper trail as possible and leaving a lot of the records up to interpretation um and I think that I think that was 100% intentional so I don't I don't know if it was malicious uh misquoting of Michael or just literally poor note taking and someone read someone else's notes and kind of summarized and misinterpreted or or whatever did he testify to Dr Kirkpatrick or was it just AO employees uh he say he says it was directly to Dr Kirkpatrick was was in the room yeah um but another thing that I'll I'll mention as well something I that I kind of caught was you know speaking of that statute that that would you know provide um penalties to anyone who lies I noticed that Arrow was extremely careful in their report not to accuse a single whistleblower of lying or misleading they emphasized how um you know accepting they are of uh the the the fact that they uh these whistleblowers believe what they're telling Arrow um you know and and I think again I think that was incredibly intentional is really like the first kind of opening sort of statement in the in the report uh if you really kind of highlight the key words there it's literally all about belief and just emphasizing belief and Everyone's entitled to their belief and they you know we can't we can't criticize uh or hold it against anyone if they believe something and um and that was intentional so that nobody could um you know I previously asserted that you know Arrow would be forced to to prosecute if they lied but but that's not really the case I kind of misspoke there really um I think it would still would have made an opportunity for other lawyers or organizations to uh press charges against whistleblowers um if if they had lied and arrow would be kind of in a position potentially to provide evidence that supports that assertion so they wanted to make sure to avoid that at all costs um and and that's why they did that you know of course I was fascinated to know if Michael had spoken to any other whistleblowers or people behind the scenes while Joey understandably couldn't comment he did tell me something interesting that kind of made me jump for joy I do know that he has he has spoken to Jonathan wayant which which was pretty interesting um because they did have sort of similar experiences um so yeah so that was really cool to think that you know Jonathan kind of had uh got gotten the chance to speak with someone else that uh you know had had a similar experience I personally believe it is probable that Michael and wayant encountered the same Insider paramilitary group too many similarities to men with American dialects and all black gear that appear to have highly skilled backgrounds of course in Wan's case he did specifically see men in doe rain jackets which allowed me to conclude that these are likely a doe Nest team again watch that analysis in my Marines video and then listen back to Michael's testimony and cross reference the two teams and lastly guys I kind of wanted to touch on some of the criticism that Joey has received he has received so much support for his investigation but also a lot of hate online people calling him Michael shill people calling him Michael's publicist or even Michael under a pseudonym and understandably so he's received some flak for receiving evidence yet not making it public let's see what he has to say I'm in no way his publicist um yeah I I there's a few exceptions to that where there there were people that I felt um would be good uh people to to interview him uh one of them is Chris Leto so that was a case where I reached out to Chris and kind of did made the first Contact and then introduced him I just hope people will be open to uh continuing to just follow um you know more as as the story unfolds because it's it's a very it's a very interesting case because you not only do you have this historical event that happened in 2009 um that still has a ton of data that is yet to be uncovered um even by myself you know yes there's things that I I do have privately that I can't share but there's also you know other data that hasn't been uncovered by myself or anyone um but now we have this kind of current thing that's unfolding as we speak I mean there are there are things happening right now behind the scenes as we speak um so I think I think it's incredibly interesting and worth paying attention to and you know no one has to make a decision about whether they think it's true or false at this point I've been taking this a lot more seriously than I ever did previously and I am giving the benefit of the doubt to the other people involved behind the scenes um and I'm and I am taking them very seriously and I'm respecting anybody's request for me not to reveal uh certain information because that's that's just the right thing to do and and people criticize me and it's and it it kills me because it I totally understand the criticism I can't even argue the criticism because I did make the decision to kind of have this compromise where I reach out to people like your yourself and other um you know podcasters and and and journalists and and people who I trust and you know reveal my identity you know you and I we had a we've we've had video calls you've seen my face you know who I am um and I've shared some information with you that backs up some of my evidence of or or you know shared some of my evidence that backs up my opinions on on certain things and so really as the best compromise I could up with you know um for now I I do hope to get to a point where I can be public and share more evidence um but for right now um that that was kind of the best compromise I could come up with and one last thing I'd like to touch on is the connection between Michael Herrera and Steven Greer I've touched upon this in almost every single one of my videos where there is a whistleblower even my Marines video because of Jonathan weant so if you're interested to hear more go check any of those out but I think it's important to start separating the whistleblowers from Dr Greer it's no surprise I have my problems with Dr Greer but I'm trying to take an approach where I will individually vet whistleblowers and people separate from Greer I see a lot of people saying that these two are in cahoots which is just blatantly not true in fact Michael himself has said that Dr Greer has embellished or purposefully lied about details of his story there's been some interviews that Dr Greer has done and everything like that where he's told told people that they put guns right to our head that wasn't the case these guys were at a standoff distance because it's easier to go like this than actually be at a standoff distance and try to rush somebody who has had a good distance that can sight in and just shoot you so we need to understand that Dr Greer is probably one of the only Avenues whistleblowers have to come forward that they know of before David grush hopefully things change in the future and people start pursuing The Avenues of grush or maybe Carl Nell or maybe if there's some changes Arrow but it's important to kind of separate Herrera from Greer hey guys thank you so much for watching today I hope you enjoyed this longer Deep dive into Michael Herrera featuring Joey is not my name this video and a subsequent followup have been a long time coming as since my first video Joey and I have become very good friends and talk almost daily so I would like to thank him for trusting me with some of the more sensitive evidence regarding Herrera this case is ongoing and I don't imagine there's going to be just one follow-up video he and I make to this Michael herrera's case has almost consumed me of late I think about it all the time I study it all the time and I talk to Joey about it all the time so this case is so fascinating to me I can't believe I initially brushed It Off by buying into the Greer ha or buying into some of the kind of nonsensical thoughts of just diminishing his testimony and thinking he's fooy because of some details that seem odd at first when hearing about his story I am still torn on The Insider in terms of is this guy conducting a scop or telling Michael real information I just don't have enough evidence right now to know but what do you guys think after hearing some more of this video and hearing from Joey do you guys believe more in Mich or less has his credibility increased or decreased in your eyes I'd love to hear from you guys because this case is so fascinating to me please guys remember to like And subscribe and if you're interested in supporting the 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